"A responsible dog breeder IS NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY. A responsible dog breeder wants nothing more than to improve their particular beloved breed. A responsible dog breeder breeds for QUALITY.. They DO NOT BREED FOR QUANTITY. THEY DO NOT 'CROSSBREED'. THEY DO NOT BREED THEIR FEMALES TO DEATH. They do not sell their 'unwanted' dogs at auction, or take them out 'back the barn and shoot them, or gas them with papaw's truck exhaust.. A responsible dog breeder is licensed, regulated inspected and therefore PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. Anyone else is a fraud, a sham, an embarrassment. What is so hard to understand is why the REAL small farmers who practice true old fashioned animal husbandry EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES do not run these pseudo-farmer twerps out of town on a rail.." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with you on some points but you lost me on old fashioned farmers being licensed, regulated, and inspected, I think that is modern oppression. Although they shouldn't be breeding solely to make money, certainly there is nothing wrong with them charging for their expertise. Otherwise, do you expect a passionate knowledgeable breeder to watch after, care for, raise, train, bathe, groom, feed, take to vet visits, walk, shop for, and educate and interview potential puppy buyers without being paid? That takes up a lot of time. Not to mention the advertising, contract writing, and being there to answer questions for the lifetime of the dog. Seriously. How do you expect breeders to do this for free? Hobby show people who only breed one or two litters per year, if that, cannot possibly fill the demand by those who will provide GOOD homes, especially in rare breeds, because few people are breeding them. And what about replacement puppies, if a breeder warranties their puppies how long will the puppy owner have to wait for a replacement given so very few puppies are ever born? Good dog breeding is a full-time job. Raising a litter of puppies in your home means getting up during the night and being home to let them out during the day. How can one also have a full time job outside the home? I don't understand some of you people. I'm not in the market for a puppy but if I were I'd want one from a breeder who takes it seriously, can answer my questions, understands their breed(s), maybe offers training or at least training advice, and will be there for me years down the road. For this I would expect to pay more for a puppy. And I sure wouldn't belittle the importance of what they do.
Prop B goes against our constitutional rights. If you love America like I do you will vote NO on Prop B. It WILL take away Americans rights and freedoms. This is why I am against Prop B. Our state put a program in place in 2009 called Bark Alert to help crack down on these unlicensed substandard kennels. Since it went into effect many kennels have been shut down and this program is working. We do not need more laws that will take away our rights and freedoms as Americans. Prop B is not set up to find, or shut down puppymills. It is set up to target good breeders and limit dog breeding. This will put thousands of people out of work at a time when jobs are hard to get. This will reduce revenue into the state and cost the taxpayers 1/2 Million annually. Our Schools are just scraping by now. I am all for stopping abuse of animals but Prop B is not the answer. You have to be wise and not just vote for something because a certain group of people say you should. You need to look at the consequences involved. BEWARE Prop B comes with many consequences. VOTE NO on Prop B!
Thank you Mr. Emery for writing this article to inform the public of the real agenda of the HSUS. It is such a shame that this organization is still being allowed to operate 1) as a non-profit organization. 2) allowed to decived the public with their TV ads asking for $19 a month to help care for animals when only 5 cents of every $10 goes to help any animal. It is the biggest scam in America if you ask me. I am sickened by their practices of deception and lies! Vote NO on Prop B!
How much more clear could I have been about which trial? I stated that it was the lawsuit filed by MoFed against the Secretary of State and the State Treasurer, joined later by the Missourians for the Protection of Dogs. Both sides were heard on August 13, 2010 at the Cole County Courthouse in Jefferson City, Mo. That is more than enough information to get a copy of the transcript.
You can question me all you like, but it won't make what I have stated untrue- that they admitted under oath that they knew Prop B wasn't ready to become a law yet, bu they were going to go ahead with it. That makes them EXACTLY the same as those they have denounced. They care more for their money than for the welfare of Missouri's dogs.
The transcript of that court case should be read by every supporter of Prop B, as should a comparison of current law to Prop B, so that all the supporters can see that the HSUS, the HSMo, the ASPCA, and all the other proponents have been lying to the public and to their own volunteers from the beginning. I sat in on one of the initial volunteer meetings in my hometown where Barbara Schmitz and Dale Barnitz (I believe that is his last name) actually told the people present that they didn't need to know what they were telling people to sign, they would find out the details later. They have been telling people that Prop B will stop illegal, substandard kennels from operating, but there is nothing in Prop B that can do that. It will reduce current basic care standards by cutting them in half!
VOTE NO ON PROP B!
"No, what this piece of pseudo legislation is really about is money. The proponents revealed in a court of law that they know Prop B isn't ready to become a law- there are too many problems. They claimed, however, that since they had spent so much money on this that they were going to go ahead with it."
What court of law, Jenny? Where's your attribution for the claims you're making? I've asked others to provide some substantiation for wild claims, but never get a response.
So what court? Which case? Links? Updated: 2010-10-05 02:22:51Updated: 2010-10-05 02:23:20
No, what this piece of pseudo legislation is really about is money. The proponents revealed in a court of law that they know Prop B isn't ready to become a law- there are too many problems. They claimed, however, that since they had spent so much money on this that they were going to go ahead with it. They never realized that this information was going to get out of the courtroom, but it has, and anyone can get get a copy of the transcript from the Cole County Courthouse of the trial portion of the lawsuit between MoFed and Missourians for the Protection of Dogs.
To be clear, the reason that Prop B isn't ready to be a law is because it WILL hurt dogs. It reduces the number of times daily that kennel dogs should be fed and watered, and reduces the annual vet visits from 2 yearly to once. How can anybody compare current law to Prop B and not figure this out? Apparently, the proponents have STILL not read the current laws in Missouri-or they are so entrenched in their mission to pass Prop B that they don't care what happens to dogs, they want kennels shut down at any cost. Beware the zealot, Joplin.
For more information and a comparison of current law to Prop B, please go to www.thealliancefortruth.com
Please VOTE NO ON PROP B!
Unfortunately, this issue IS about property.
The Neanderthal me-publican Rep. Emery said it like it is..
(Of course he didn't actually SAY it..he merely spinned the reality).
Domestic animals are legally considered 'property'.
Which is why is is more difficult to pass animal abuse laws than it is to thread a camel through a needle..'It's MINE, and I am 'free' to do anything I want with it'.
Which is why these 10th century troglodyte dog-farmers see nothing wrong with raising companion animals in chicken coops and pig-pens all the time whining how they love their 'babies'.
Which is why the sub-human sneaky/snarky corporate D.C lobbyists have succeeded in making 'humane' a dirty word.
Which is why all this brouhaha is not about dogs or cows or the Humane Society or the bus driver.
THIS IS ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE.
'Humanity' costs money.
A responsible dog breeder IS NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY.
A responsible dog breeder wants nothing more than to improve their particular beloved breed.
A responsible dog breeder breeds for QUALITY..
They DO NOT BREED FOR QUANTITY.
THEY DO NOT 'CROSSBREED'.
THEY DO NOT BREED THEIR FEMALES TO DEATH.
They do not sell their 'unwanted' dogs at auction, or take them out 'back the barn and shoot them, or gas them with papaw's truck exhaust..
A responsible dog breeder is licensed, regulated inspected and therefore PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.
Anyone else is a fraud, a sham, an embarrassment.
What is so hard to understand is why the REAL small farmers who practice true
old fashioned animal husbandry EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES do not run these pseudo-farmer twerps out of town on a rail..
This isn't about property rights--it's about animal abuse. A dog is not a sack of potatoes or a bag of carrots.
This really isn't about the HSUS, either. However, since the Representative brought the organization up, he can find out information about the HSUS finances from the web site. The financial reports and 990 filings are directly accessible at http://www.humanesociety.org/about/overview/annual_reports_financial_statements.html.
Note that the organization is a BBB Accredited Charitable Organization. It's primary purpose can be found in the first page of the IRS 990 filing.
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